Fw: Re : *DHR* Aw: Re: Kaminuza imwe y'u Rwanda: Butare itakaje faculté de Médecine

Celeste
Iyo abantu bakominika kuri izi forums haba misunderstanding kubera ko style dukoresha twandika zidahuje, ariko akenshi  nta muntu ufite objectif yo gusebya undi.
Hanyuma kandi n'abakorera Kagame n'abo n''uburenganzira bwabo. Nubwo wowe utarimo urabo, ukoreye Kagame nta kibi kilimo. Ni akazi baba baguhaye kandi uhemberwa. Nta butegetsi butagira maneko. Ibyo wavuze ndabyemera byo kwirinda generalisations.
Ibyo nashatse kuvuga ni uko universites za US akanshi hazamo element commercial, bityo za universites zo mu bindi bihugu zidakoresha  element commercial, abantu bakibeshya ko ntabwo zigisha.  US ntacyo badakora badakoresheje publicite. Muzi akayabo bataga mu matora ya Perezida kubera publicite. Nyamara mu Burayi ho ntibyemewe. Ibyo si ukuvuga ko mu Burayi nta demokarasi ihari. Universites zo muri US rero ni uko zikora. Batanga akayabao k'amafaraga menshi ngo bavugwe ko ari aba mbere mu kwigisha. Urumva rero ko universite yo mu Bubirigi idasakuza ikoresho publicite ntabwo izandikwa ko ari iya mbere. Abo ba publiya izo universites za mbere basaba amafaranga kugira ngo bikorwe kandi na za evalauations zizo universites zikorrwe. Iyo utayatanze rero bagushyira inyuma cyangwa .

Ubushakashatsi bwerekana ko  uburezi na universites sacandinaves zigisha kurusha universites zose zo ku isi, ariko ntabwo zibarwa mu za mbere. Nkuko wabivuze byose biterwa na criteres bahereyeho. Urundi rugero, kubera ko Uburusiya bwigisha mu kirusiya, universites zabo bazishira inyuma kubera ko abakora evalauations batumva ikirusiya. Nyamara Uburusiya ni igihangange ku isi, kuki se bwaba igihangange mu bindi bukananirwa kuba igihangage mu burezi ? Kubera guerre froide , nta kintu kiza cyavaga mu Burusiya kemerwa ko ari cyiza, bityo natwe kubera ko tugendera ku banyamerika n'abanya Burayi twakunze gusuzugura abize mu Burusiya nta mpamvu zigaragara. 

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From: Celeste <haksonc@yahoo.com>
To: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
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Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013, 10:32
Subject: Re: Re : *DHR* Aw: Re: Kaminuza imwe y'u Rwanda: Butare itakaje faculté de Médecine

 

WRONG TARGET

On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:38, Rwembe Charlie <rwembe6030@yahoo.fr> wrote:

 

...Bakakwita Mushushwe y'imbeba. Aho narerewe iki ni igitutsi gikomeye.?Celeste

Celeste,

Turura, turura ...

Umenya ari ikinyarwanda cyawe kimaze kukubana gike, ntabwo Anyesi yakwise umushushwe w'imbeba. Yaguciriye umugani gusa atsindagira ko iriya regime ya FPR ikoporora iby'ahandi byo kwigaana ibibera ahandi alors que les donnees ziba zidahuye...ahubwo wasubira inyuma ugasoma contexte yuwo mugani uzwi na benshi...ni misinterpretation/misunderstanding de ta part. ahubwo wagombye kwaka excuses Anyesi. Ntabwo yagututse du tout!

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De : Celeste <haksonc@yahoo.com>
À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
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Envoyé le : Jeudi 26 septembre 2013 19h52
Objet : Re: Re : *DHR* Aw: Re: Kaminuza imwe y'u Rwanda: Butare itakaje faculté de Médecine

 

Samuel,

Urakoze Sam. Bishobora kuba bituruka nuko narezwe. Ariko insinuation ya Agnes ko naba nsoma ibyo mwandika nkabikoresha ahandi made me sick. Nizeye ko atavugaga ko mbijyana kwa Kagame. Niko se Samuel, niba uhugukiwe mu migani wambwira icyo nakwandikiye cyatumye Agnes ancira umugani: Urwigana rwa mushuswe rwamaze/ruzamara abana b'imbeba mu rubariro? Mushushwe? Well, well.  Nigana nde kuri iyi Forum? Umuntu atuka undi atazi koko yitwaje ko amurusha gushyomoka?  Nibyo muri USA niho nize, kandi ntabwo numva nkeneye ku defenda Universite nizemo,  ariko ikibazo nagize ni ukuvuga ngo Universites iyi niyi yigisha neza kuru sha iyi. Nawe urabizi wanabisanga kuri USA news website best 400 world Universities 2013. Byose biterwa n'ishami being evaluated nizindi criteria. Ikindi nashakaga kuvuga munyandiko yawe ni Harvard or Yale uvuga ko kuhiga ari amafaranga. Ibyo ndabyemera ni amafaranga menshi, sometimes family connection, ariko rimwe narimwe abana bacu biga muri izo Universites kubera amanota bagize nimyigire yabo in high school, kandi Izo Universites zidufasha kwishyura percentage ya tuition. Byadufasha rero twirinze to generalize. Fake non accredited Universities ziba hose kandi biba bizwi hano in USA, uhitamo kuzigamo at your own risk, kuberako inaha utakoresha diploma yizo university ushaka akazi. Niba iyi forum ariyo. kungurana ibitekerezo, ntawe basaba gusubiza ibyanditse, twagombye kwirinda gusuzugura abandi. Gusubiza si ugutukana. Ariko nyine Agnes anyibukije ibibazo turimo hano byerekeranye na Leta isoma ibyo twandika nibyo tureba online. Interest Agnes afite yo kumenya ko ntandika kuri iyi forum cyangwa niyandikishije muri 1997 ni iyihe? All this triggered by a comment I made to you because  I read all your postings and value your inputs? Only God knows.

Hano mu mbabarire nshobora kuba naguye mu mutego ngasubiza mpubutse, ariko nubwambere nari mpuye ninyandiko nkiyi, aho udasubizwa ikibazo ubajije ahubwo bakakumvisha ko ntacyo uvuze. Bakakwita Mushushwe y'imbeba. Aho narerewe iki ni igitutsi gikomeye. Najyaga nsoma postings hirya no hino zitanyuze kuburyo numvaga ntacyo nazivugaho, ariko ntabwo Murebwayire najyaga numva kuri Radio Rwanda, nashoboraga gutekereza ko yakwihanukira akanshyira muri category iyi niyi ntazi ibyikora, akagera naho kunyita umushushwe w'imbeba. 

Urakoze cyane Samuel, binyigishije isomo. Ubwo tuzajya twungurana ibitekerezo niba hari ibitekerezo cy'ubaka naba mfite cyangwa hari topic numva nagira icyo mvugaho. Ariko gutukana sinabishobora cyangwa kwandika ntacyo nungura abandi ari ukwiyamamaza ntamwanya mbifitiye. 

Umugoroba mwiza

Celestin

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On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:49, Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Celeste,

Ndumva Agnes nta kibi yavuze kandi ntacyo yagushinje kandi uru rubuga turukoresha tuzi ko hariho ba maneko ba Kagame basoma ibyo twanditse. Njye nkumva ko akenshi ibyo twandika tuba dufasha n'ubutegetsi bwa Kagame kugira hagire ibyo bakosora. Iyo ushaka ko umuntu akomeza amakosa ye ntacyo umubwira. Kagame rero yagombye gushima ibyo twandika dore ko nta bwisanzure mu Rwanda buhari. Opposition niyemerwa mu Rwanda, ibi twandika twabivugira muri za meetings politiques.

Njye nkumva rero utari muri abo ba maneko kandi sibyo yashatse kuvuga. Provocation amicale nayo ni nziza kandi nawe ntukajye uremereza communications. Agnes mbona adatera ibibazo kandi ntashotorana.

Ufite uburenganzira kandi bwo kudefenda aho wize niba ari muri USA. Kera mu Rwanda bavugaga ko abize mu Burusiya batize nk'abize i Ruhande cyangwa universites zo mu Burayi. Ariko ubu byarahindutse. Mu  Burusiya naho haba za universites zikomeye. Si muri Amerika gusa. Icyo twavuze ni hegemonie americaine ituma abantu bose batekereza ko ibyaho byose ari byiza ko barusha abandi muri byose. Ibihugu byinshi byateye imbere bifite universites nziza na universites mbi harimo na USA

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From: Celeste <haksonc@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013, 16:59
Subject: Re: Re : *DHR* Aw: Re: Kaminuza imwe y'u Rwanda: Butare itakaje faculté de Médecine

 

Murebwayire,

Gucunga ibyo abandi banditse nkajya kubikoresha ahandi? You may be kidding right? Ngo kuva muri 1997? God Almighty!!  Ufite akazi gakomeye kabisa? Nizeye ko uhembwa neza ukora izo recensement za bantu biyandikisha kuri iyi forum. Nkabijyana he se wa Mudamu we? Ariko uziko abanyarwanda ko hari uwatuvumye. Ubwo urihanukiye uranshotora nari nandikiye Samuel, na Samuel yari yanshubije. Urata igihe cyawe. Va kugiti dore umuntu. Madame, ariko se niko kazi ushinzwe ko gukora assessment yabandika kuri Internet?  Good luck. Maze rero wa mudamu we ntamwanya mfite wo guterana amagambo. Njya nsoma amagambo uterana nabamwe kuri iyi forum, wigira intamenya, unyuzamo ukishongora. Ntuzategereze ko nzagira icyo nandika kuri ayo mahomvu nkuko uyita. i have work to do and if I want to publish I do it in appropriate journals and forums and not responding to your garbages. 

Nabonye ibyo Samuel yanditse kuri Universites twizemo, birantangaza kuberako najyaga nsoma inyandiko ze nkabona zirimo gushishoza. Icyantangaje nuko yashize Universites za USA in same basket.  Kandi yanshubije mu bupfura, nzamusubiza nimbona umwanya. Wowe uturutsehe? Waba se warize muri izo Universites zo mu Bubirigi cyangwa USA Sam yavugaga? Niba warize muri izo Universites tuzakomeza ikiganiro Samuel yatangije and nothing else. Ibyo bintu byo kwigira bamenya no gushotorana ntabwo bijya bimfata. Bigomba kuba bifite icyo bikumariye, uzabikomeze, jyewe umvane muri izo mpaka zanyu. I reacted to Sam's posting because I value his opinions and he responded to me. Erega Madamu hari uwavuze ko crowasser n'est pas chanter et s'agiter frenetiquement n'est pas dancer. Kumeza ibyo ugamije kugeraho, naho jyewe nzasubiza posting numva ifite ingiro and not write just to make me feel good. Abasoma ibi bambarire ko navanze indimi.  Please mfasha hasi, ntamwanya mfite wo gushotorana nawe. Ntanigisubizo nzagusubiza niba biterekeranye na prime posting ya Samuel.

Ugire amahoro. 

Celestin